Posted on Mar 23, 2017 by Caleb Chen

US Senate votes 50-48 to do away with broadband privacy rules; let ISPs and telecoms to sell your internet history


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Despite widespread disapproval from constituents, S.J.Res 34 has passed the United States Senate with a vote of 50-48, with two absent votes. Earlier today, at 12:25 Eastern March 23, 2017, the US Senate voted on S.J.Res 34, and will use the Congressional Review Act to strip away broadband privacy protections that kept Internet Service Providers (ISPs) and telecoms from selling your internet history and app data usage to third parties. S.J.Res 34 was first introduced by 23 Republican Senators earlier this month and its blitz approval is a giant blow to privacy rights in the United States.

The resolution, which is now effectively half passed, will hand responsibility of broadband privacy regulation from the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) to the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) and disallow the FCC from making any rules protecting Internet privacy ever again.

The 50 Senators that voted for S.J.Res 34 are (thanks to happyxpenguin):
Senator Roberts (R-KS)
Senator Lee (R-UT)
Senator Boozman (R-AR)
Senator Blunt (R-MO)
Senator Crapo (R-ID)
Senator Scott (R-SC)
Senator Cotton (R-AR)
Senator Hatch (R-UT)
Senator Capito (R-WV)
Senator Alexander (R-TN)
Senator Toomey (R-PA)
Senator Perdue (R-GA)
Senator Cochran (R-MS)
Senator Inhofe (R-OK)
Senator Ernst (R-IA)
Senator Lankford (R-OK)
Senator Collins (R-ME)
Senator Sullivan (R-AK)
Senator Thune (R-SD)
Senator McCain (R-AZ)
Senator Graham (R-SC)
Senator Wicker (R-MS)
Senator Grassley (R-IA)
Senator Burr (R-NC)
Senator Hoeven (R-ND)
Senator Tillis (R-NC)
Senator McConnell (R-KY)
Senator Heller (R-NV)
Senator Cruz (R-TX)
Senator Daines (R-MT)
Senator Portman (R-OH)
Senator Murkowsky (R-AK)
Senator Cassidy (R-LA)
Senator Flake (R-AZ)
Senator Johnson (R-WI)
Senator Rubio (R-FL)
Senator Corker (R-TN)
Senator Risch (R-ID)
Senator Gardner (R-CO)
Senator Young (R-IN)
Senator Barasso (R-WY)
Senator Moran (R-KS)
Senator Cornyn (R-TX)
Senator Enzi (R-WY)
Senator Kennedy (R-LA)
Senator Shelby (R-AL)
Senator Rounds (R-SD)

Absent:
Senator Paul (R-KY)
Senator Isakson (R-GA)

The FCC broadband privacy rules are closer to ending – allowing your private internet history to be sold

The Senators that voted for this have been lobbied by the telecoms and ISPs. Those in support of this stripping of privacy rights have even filed with the FCC attempting to claim that web history and app data usage information is not sensitive information. The EFF put it concisely: Senate Puts ISP Profits Over Your Privacy. Now, the only chance to maintain the hard earned FCC broadband privacy rules lies in defeating H.J.Res 86, the House version of this resolution, which will likely be voted on in the House of Representatives within the next month. It’s up to us to Save Broadband Privacy and make sure that we Don’t Let Congress Undermine Our Privacy.

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About Caleb Chen

Caleb Chen is a digital currency and privacy advocate who believes we must #KeepOurNetFree, preferably through decentralization. Caleb holds a Master's in Digital Currency from the University of Nicosia as well as a Bachelor's from the University of Virginia. He feels that the world is moving towards a better tomorrow, bit by bit by Bitcoin.


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89 Comments

  1. Michael

    What can we do today? How much can our calls influence our representatives? Do they even hold our interests anymore?

    7 months ago
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    1. Anthony Martin

      Everyone that is fucking sick and tired of dealing with rhinos. Need to rally the people in your state and recall these bastards and force special elections. Forget re-election time time for all these people to go.

      7 months ago
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      1. diy crafts

        The resolution, which is now effectively half passed, will hand responsibility of broadband privacy regulation from the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) to the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) and disallow the FCC from making any rules protecting Internet privacy ever again.

        5 months ago
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  2. whowantstoknow56

    This already happens…this bill doesn’t change anything.

    Your phone, computer, tablet, etc. ALL track EVERYTHING you do and companies sell that info.

    Don’t believe me?

    If you have the FB app…even if you have ALL the permissions turned off. They will still listen and track what you say.

    Try it, talk about switching insurance providers and watch the next ad that pops up on your news feed.

    7 months ago
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    1. Dusty

      Facebook isn’t an ISP nor is it governed under the same rules as they are

      7 months ago
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      1. Ryan Fry

        That was the isp’s argument. Everyone else is doing this so why cant we?

        7 months ago
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      2. whowantstoknow56

        Doesn’t mean they still don’t do the same thing….

        Why is it ok for one company but not another?

        7 months ago
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        1. InfestedToast

          Because an ISP is a utility company… And utility companies shouldn’t be allowed to collect this vast amount of data and sell it (they have access to more data than any other company on the planet. They have more data on you than the government does. The government goes to the isps for most of their data collection purposes…). This is very bad.

          Internet service is basically a necessity to modern Life. You can live without Facebook, but it’s nearly impossible to live in modern society without internet. Going without internet is like going without power. Most jobs require you to have internet access. I don’t think a single job requires you to use Facebook.

          I don’t use Facebook, google or any of those services. I use Linux. Very little of my data is collected and sold and I want to keep it that way.

          Time to start using a vpn again…

          7 months ago
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          1. whowantstoknow56

            I can see your side

            7 months ago
          2. Astraea Reminiec

            We have WOW ! ( wide Open West) which isn’t a well known cable company..
            are they selling the billing info to other companies?

            7 months ago
          3. Mattthew Warner

            Linux is not a ISP service. Linux is technically not even a full operating system either. Linux is the kernel in which linux “distributions” use. When you login and see your desktop, thats not linux. Thats your desktop environment such as XFCE, Gnome, KDE, etc…

            But you are right ISP’s get all the data that pass’s thru them where as if you don’t like Facebook you can simply not use it. But heres the kicker. Your data is on the internet whether you use the internet or not. You Social Security number is stored on a computer that is connected to the internet on the government level. Your name, address and phonebook are on the internet even if you do not use the internet. So is your living history. All of this is even if you NEVER have used the internet. So like my grandma who’s never owned a computer yet alone had an internet.. All of that information is already on the internet.

            So thinking your data is not collected, would be wrong. Tho you at least did say “very little”. My guess is you would shit your pants if you realized just how much data is on the internet.

            VPN will give you “some” protection. But then again it didn’t work well for some hackers. Apparently not all VPN’s are created equal. And then the final nail in the VPN coffin is that if the FBI kick the door down and yank the power plugs on those computers then do forensic recovery on the hard drives guess what, some of that data will still be there. Problem is when you delete data your not really overwriting it you are just telling the computer hey w/e i don’t wanna use this chunk of memory someone else can. This is why when programming you must null out the bytes or assign a value to it before reading the value otherwise you get pure garbage (unless using debug mode which automatically sets your data to 0x00 for example).

            7 months ago
        2. sbeeson

          This would be like Chevy tracking where you go with onstar versus the Department of transportation tracking where you go no matter what car you use. One kinda makes sense and you can opt out (cancel onstar) the other is terrifying and of zero benefit to you.

          7 months ago
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          1. whowantstoknow56

            Yeah but it still happens….so, your point?

            7 months ago
    2. Jargoyle

      But now instead of cheating, and if caught, slapped on the wrist with a fine (that is but a fraction of what they made selling stolen information) it is now legal to do so.
      We need to make senators wear NASCAR type suits with their official sponsor embroidered boldly.

      7 months ago
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      1. whowantstoknow56

        Ha I would be for that…a bunch of Ricky Bobbies walking around Legislation arguing

        7 months ago
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      2. Edgar Alberto Anolin

        not yet. has to pass the House.

        7 months ago
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        1. RealNameClarence

          Which will happen easily. Just a matter of time, and not that much time

          7 months ago
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    3. Mattthew Warner

      I feel like you just false advertised and wasted my time. I just repeatedly infant of ALL my devices which I never turn a single primary feature on. And not 1 damn add popped up for what I was talking about. Also 90% of the ad’s I do see are from amazon/ebay. Where if you make a purchase Facebook gets a commission. And they don’t even have to “sell” your data.. your data is all stored conveniently in your cookies… know whats better then buying your information and having to pay a half a trillion dollars for a server farm big enough to actually house that volume of data? Tricking everyones computers into hosting this information instead.. wait, this does exist called cookies.. and you have wasted my time. x_x

      -Former Web Developer and current Computer Programmer

      7 months ago
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      1. whowantstoknow56

        It’ll happen…

        7 months ago
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      2. whowantstoknow56

        Don’t blame someone else for your decisions…if your time was wasted that was your choice

        7 months ago
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      3. Paul

        Former Web Developer or not, you don’t seem to understand how cookies work at all.

        Cookies are not used to store ‘all your data’ and never have been.
        They basically store an identifier into Facebooks database. So yes, Facebook absolutely need a server farm to link that cookie id to ‘all your data’

        Go and update your tech knowledge because its horribly inadequate

        7 months ago
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        1. Cherch

          Paul, it might be you who doesn’t understand cookies completely. I think Matthew is right. I had created my resume in MSWord and stored it in my documents folder. I did NOT upload it to the internet or attach it to an email because, as I was still working on it. A few days later I found it in a temporary internet folder filled with cookies, ready to be uploaded the next time I connected to the internet. So, I know cookies can contain code, (a proc, an instruction), who’s purpose is toseek & grab data from your computer, then upload at next connect.

          7 months ago
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          1. 12centuries

            I’m a web developer. It’s not true. Cookies are not programs. They are tiny text files that are used to store your ID and your preferences for a particular website (such as the “remember me” on login forms). They cannot “do” anything by themselves, and no website can look at cookies that were created by another website.

            Your temporary internet folder does not hold cookies. The cookies are held in another folder (type “shell:cookies” into your windows-r run box to see where they’re stored).

            I don’t know what’s going on with your resume, but if you viewed it with IE at any point, it would easily end up in your temporary internet folder. But NOTHING in your temporary folder is uploaded. Ever. That’s now this works. That’s not how any of this works.

            7 months ago
          2. Paul

            I promise you, I understand cookies completely 🙂

            > I found it in a temporary internet folder filled with cookies, ready to be uploaded the next time I connected to the internet

            This is not accurate. It doesn’t upload all your cookies en-masse. They can only be sent to the actual website domain which set the cookie in the first place.

            > I know cookies can contain code, who’s purpose is toseek & grab data from your computer, then upload at next connect.

            No, there’s no code or instructions whatsoever. Nothing ‘runs’ cookies.
            Its just a bit of text (usually cryptic looking), but the site has encoded whatever information it wanted to store in there, and its sent to that site next time you access it.

            7 months ago
    4. Paul

      Yeah, this is just not true.

      Your ISP has no ability to routinely view your Facebook communications, since it uses https and is encrypted end to end. It may be that your ISP is logging the encrypted packets for some users, AND it may be that the FBI or security services are able to decrypt these, in cases where they need to, and with enough time and effort.

      But to suggest your ISP is routinely scanning your Facebook messages as plain text and then mining it for marketing data, is just utter nonsense and shows a basic misunderstanding of the technology being used.

      7 months ago
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      1. whowantstoknow56

        really then how do they know when people download torrents and shut off the internet?

        7 months ago
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        1. Paul

          Because the bittorrent protocol does not use http or https.

          Now you may access a torrent download site via https which is encrypted, but this does not automatically mean the *.torrent download is
          In these cases your ISP *CAN* see that you have directly accessed a .torrent file and the site is was downloaded from.

          There are improvements to bittorrent in recent years which mean its possible to download torrents using an encrypted protocol, (in which case your ISP *CAN* still see which site or download host you have requested, from DNS requests, but cannot see which file or torrent you have requested).

          See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent_protocol_encryption

          7 months ago
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          1. whowantstoknow56

            Thanks, I’m learning lots from ya’ll today

            7 months ago
        2. SoftwareGuy

          In addition to what Paul said, those who own the copyright will oftentimes download the torrent themselves as a “peer” and will be able to see which IPs are violating their copyright. And with admissible proof that this IP was sending packets of data violating their copyright, they’ll then request the contact info of those IPs to the ISP (internet service provider) to send you a letter.

          7 months ago
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          1. whowantstoknow56

            Oh ok, so it’s not the ISP tracking but the other companies

            7 months ago
        3. Eric Espinoza

          Torrenting and other p2p services use the same network port for their connections. ISPs may not be able to see the encrypted information that is being sent/received but they damn well can see what port is being used for the information. They can also see what IP addresses you’re connecting to. There are public trackers that are known for distributing pirated software. If you qualify for a few of these criteria, they can infer that you are using p2p services to download pirated software.

          7 months ago
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          1. whowantstoknow56

            Interesting, so theoretically if you get warnings/service ended by them for that specific issue. They currently don’t have proof and breached their contract?

            7 months ago
          2. Eric Espinoza

            Well I wouldn’t jump to that conclusion so quickly. Every ISP is a but different but I’m sure that there’s a clause somewhere in all their Terms of Service saying that you shouldn’t torrent pirated software, receiving or distributing. Torrenting isn’t bad, it’s just a better way of hosting certain files. Ubuntu distros have an option of being downloaded via p2p. Is this bad? No. But since ISPs aren’t looking at what you’re downloading sometimes it’s easier just blanketing any p2p connection as potential wrongdoing so any action on p2p ports can flag you as a potential criminal.

            7 months ago
          3. mattyyg

            No, the copywriter holder (Let’s say NBC for example) downloads the same torrent, makes note of all the peer addresses and then contacts your ISP to IP address w.x.y.z downloaded The Office illegally from your network.

            Then your ISP sends you a warning letter saying, NBC contacted us referencing your IP address saying you downloaded The Office illegally. Stop now or we will terminate your account, hand your contact info to NBC, and they will sue you.

            The ISP is the messenger in this case, not the accuser.

            7 months ago
      2. Gene Ponce

        Paul

        Have you ever heard of DPI (Deep Packet Inspection) Don’t think that for one minute your traffic can’t be inspected. It being legal at the moment for an ISP to do that is another story.

        7 months ago
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      3. sysfailure0x5a

        One acronym. DNS. Look it up. Most people use their ISPs DNS servers. They already have all your DNS requests logged. Even if you use 3rd party DNS, that DNS provider could sell your usage. Finally, the primary ISP can easily keep logs of all your browsers GET traffic (Source + Destination IP Address).

        The article never said anything about tracking exactly what is typed within https connections.

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        1. 12centuries

          And even if you’re using a 3rd party DNS provider (like OpenDNS), your ISP can still see the IP addresses of any traffic they route, and an easy reverse DNS lookup will easily reveal what sites you’re visiting.

          7 months ago
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          1. sysfailure0x5a

            Yeah, that’s what I was getting at 🙂

            7 months ago
    5. Alex

      You do realize this is a different thing, right? If you write something in the Facebook app, of course facebook listens and tracks it. You’re literally handing it to them.

      This bill is about allowing your internet provider to share and resell information about what you do on your computer. Whether it’s facebook, or gmail, or a web search, or opening a web page in incognito mode, running any program that accesses the internet (they all do now). Unless you unplug your computer from a wall, this makes it legal for a company (that in all likelihood already has a monopoly on providing broadband to your area so has zero incentive to do anything to keep you happy) to package your entire online behavior and make it available to the highest bidder.

      7 months ago
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    6. keeley1

      Congress is getting paid for it.

      7 months ago
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    7. AndrusskenN

      By using those apps you have given permission to use your info. Now permission is not needed. This is tyranny.

      7 months ago
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  3. Batman

    Where are you getting your information?

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-joint-resolution/34/text

    Above is a link to S.J. Res 34. The text of which states that its sole purpose is to codify into law that the rule created by the Department of labor, “81 Fed. Reg. 32391”, shall have no effect, essentially negating it.

    Curious, I decided to actually -read- the rule in question, to see why the Department of Labor would make a law protecting internet privacy, and not the FCC (which is an independent agency).

    The rule in question can be found here:

    https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2016/05/23/2016-11754/defining-and-delimiting-the-exemptions-for-executive-administrative-professional-outside-sales-and

    Now like I said, I read the damned thing. In it the word “internet” appears only 36 times, all in section headers. “Browse” doesn’t appear at all, “History” only appears 17 times.

    In fact, the entire rule has to do with pay rates and overtime and which employees are exempt from receiving overtime pay for overtime hours.

    I see absolutely nothing in any of the previously mentioned locations regarding anything to do with the internet, browsing history, personal information, or the selling of data.

    Either you, or I, are very confused here. Perhaps you could clarify?

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    1. Batman

      AHA. Thank you Kovah88 and Curtis Weyant. Now to read into all of those…(damn you google for displaying old crap first)

      7 months ago
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  4. Dan Robinson

    Pay to play! Some things never change. How can congress serve the public in good conscious, when they are selling our rights to the highest bidder.
    Clearly the public does not want their every move tracked. If we don’t like how an app or website tracks our efforts, then we at least can assimilate and boycott. With this new millstone, the public is trapped and sold out for the almighty dollar.

    7 months ago
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    1. Sheep O'Doom

      2018 is gonna be fun Trumpcare no one wants ISPs selling things no one wants sold A Corrupt president & admin that needs impeaching.

      7 months ago
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  5. PJ

    How did the Nebraska senators vote? Update the list.

    7 months ago
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  6. Unknown

    Stops about 90% of ads and tracking done on my computer. The internet version of the Do Not Call list. IF you order anything online that just opens up you computer for more ads. I just update the blocker once a month. http://www.aboutads.info/choices/

    7 months ago
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  7. Jimmy Jimbo

    Everyone look up midgit porn

    7 months ago
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  8. Kimberly Barkley

    Oh, grow up!! If you don’t want your shit out there, get off the grid and go live in a cave. Between cameras everywhere and phones in everyone’s hands there is no privacy. You will never get rid of advertising, it’s a huge money maker.

    7 months ago
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    1. Anom

      Let’s install cameras in your home then. After all companies want to see what toilet paper you use and advertise theirs. Squeeze the Charmin.

      7 months ago
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      1. True Justice

        Echo, Google Home, Smart TV’s, Smart Meters, Smart Barbie etc . . .

        7 months ago
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  9. Boop

    Well.. I hope some activist group or something like wiki-leaks now buys each of those senator’s and their family’s browser histories and publishes it all on the internet.

    7 months ago
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  10. Rochelle Black

    What’s the difference? Control of anything in the US internet can now be run by 3rd world despots. Your #44 gave that away giddily. This is small change compared to that.

    7 months ago
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  11. Anony-mouse

    Great! Start with the senators first. Start selling them. Next, business. Big companies would bay big to see what the next big idea a company is planning to make. And finally, government. More money there. It’s a good day to be alive. Now excuse me, I’m gonna get myself rich.

    7 months ago
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  12. AlexxelA

    Pandora’s box is open!
    If the internet came with a warning, the booklet would be the size of the old yellow pages. When you surf the internet for information it isn’t free and far from a public library. Business want to build a model of every user, so they can sell, target and brainwash you to buy products. This happens at the supermarket, pharmacy, and retail stores. That is why we will never have privacy on the internet or at the stores we shop in.

    7 months ago
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  13. James Stamulis

    I don’t know crap about computer technology but i would like to know when did we the people ever say to the government and private sector that we want them to spy on us every way they can because i sure as hell want my privacy back not because i am committing crimes but because it should be my right unless i am committing crimes. Just more proof we are not really represented anymore.

    7 months ago
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  14. renda blue

    RAT Bastards

    7 months ago
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  15. Candy Flopburg

    this government is evil! it will vote to murder all of us in the future! remember he causes all to take the mark of the beast 666 in there right hand or forehead! Satan has taken control of Washington dc its pure pizzagate pedophile evil folks!

    7 months ago
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  16. Marybeth lafemina

    No state from northeast including ny didnt vote for it???? If they didnt good for them. The two wimp senators from nc did of course.

    7 months ago
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  17. Prophet

    I may be wrong here, but its my choice to go to F/B, twitter or any other website and yes i realize iam being watched..My problem is I have only One choice for my ISP where i live…Why should they have the right to monitor EVERYTHING I do and profit from it…I pay them good money every month

    7 months ago
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  18. J.R.

    Well if the Senate wants to allow the sale of your browsing history, then the internet companies should pay you a royalty each time they sell it.

    7 months ago
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  19. Christian Gains

    This folks, is NOT a “WAKE UP” call…IT IS a “GOTCHA!” declaration! An IN YOUR FACE, “THOUGH S#*T!”

    “WHOWANTSTO KNOW56” is ABSOLUTELY right! The “Alphabet Soups” ALREADY have INSTANT ACCESS to your info, 24/7-365 & HAVE HAD for quite some time…pretty much ever since Phil Zimmerman, [PhP program designer], was given the option he couldn’t refuse: “1 million $$$,{4 the “back door”}; OR, 1 million years, {prison time}!!!”

    Welcome to the “neo-1984″…Where they’re NOT hiding anything anymore, they’re SOOOO already in CONTROL, “Big Brother” is simply telling you the TRUTH, and laughing in your face!
    —————————————————————————————————————————————————-
    IF you HAVEN’T read it! READ the original “1984”, and LEARN the depth of their derangement! (esply clearly detailed on {Pgs.140, [8th line from top]…thru 143, [6th paragraph…OR through line 26]}…The thots expressed there, are NOT really FICTION, they’re LITERALLY, ALMOST Prophecy!!!…hmmmmm…on 2nd thot, they ARE prophecy!!! We just HATE to believe it…as do Winston & Julia….
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    THIS SHOULD alert ALL to just how “bought & sold” our Representatives actually ARE!!

    IF this passes the Senate!!! (NOTE: Neither Rep. Paul, NOR Isakson (either were NOT present, OR refused to vote…???) They’re EITHER our ONLY willing “STANDARD BEARERS” Or they just “went along, to get along”…need to find THAT fact out!

    This puts me into THINKING MODE…Get ahold of the “DARK ANGEL” T.V. Series, (Jessica Alba’s first appearance I believe), and note the “FORYOUREYESONLY” character…THAT is where we’re headed…to the “DARKNET WORLD”…and below, [as it also is UTTERLY COMPROMISED!] (note the number of criminals who’ve been caught on it {DARKNET} — pedophiles ESPECIALLY!)…

    FOLKS! You’d BEST get working on a VERY COMPLICATED encryption, (at LEAST that MIGHT help?!?!…tho “No Such Agency” has had “THE BEAST” for years now…capable of forcing ANY encryption known, as far as I know…(note how the FBI, {which are, by NO MEANS better equipped than NSA}, found HELL-R-eees 30,000 e-mails}, for an example of just how capable THEY are)…

    The SIMPLE TRUTH is…It’s TIME to get to praying & seeking GENUINE wisdom, not just YOUR knowledge…as to WHAT to do!

    THIS IS an “in your face” declaration of ALL OUT WAR!!!…

    Get to LEARNING how to dodge this bullet…AND!!! START calling YOUR Senator and DEMANDING they NOT allow this “back stabbing” to go thru…(REMIND THEM…”WE the People…”; put Trump INTO office, and WE CAN & WILL take THEM OUT!!!!)….DON’T RELAX!!! DO IMPACT!!! NEVER QUIT! GIVE’em S#IT!!!

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  20. Pale Writer

    Now based on government parallel construction there could be two of the same thing. Or two same ISP’s that are not exactly the same thing nor reporting the same thing of internet usage. Right?

    Say someone else is using your ISP who is a pedophile that you don’t know about because you aren’t getting any of the information reported back to you quarterly annually weekly or whatever? Then someone else with your internet ID fingerprint could be feeding criminal and nefarious information usage like electronic device and website visit fingerprints that could look like you or your computer users and might be but also has a chance that it is not. How’s anyone going to tell the difference between safe sound sober non criminal internet users vs those that are via anyone’s ISP history?

    I think it’s a bad idea and puts even more people at risk for treat fusion data false reality and or also legal fiction profiles to be brought up on only what might be that one person or who knows? What if it’s a whole household of family and non family like foreign exchange students or whatever like that who uses the same device that isn’t there’s? Perhaps some similar concern using internet cafe and library computers etc. What’s that going to say about all the various people who might use those computers or devices that belong to the public and private owners of those places and businesses to access the internet?

    I think alot more should have been done into investigating and reporting in real news like alt right news sites what all good things and what all harmful or derogatory and potentially inflammatory things that can come from passing this bill and making it into law before anyone just does it?

    You know. Like a little (QC) quality control check with transparency to the public sort of thing. Do you remember what that looks and sounds like. Yes that is a little bit like good idea accountability. Because that’s what might be what comes back to anyone unsuspecting that they might have to be accountable for something then eventually also.

    Because not everyone is going to be able to have Hillary Clinton style level immunity from prosecution on everything all the time. FBI’s James Comey even said that too. “That if anyone else does what Hillary did with her State Departments private unclassified server and emails and classified documents set to that already immune free from prosecution third party unclassified server and handler himself?” “But if anyone else did that then they could be prosecuted for felony crimes.”

    So where is uniform and regulated evenly with transparent accountability for everyone everywhere regardless of who they are in this news information,Hillary’s scandals and any matter these days?

    Well at least GOA reported that President Trump over ruled Obama’s Social Security gun ban for all Americans alike. Thank you Mr Trump. Now might I be able to get my own estate property guns back without a signature for anything admitting anything also? Because none in government required anyone’s signature or fingerprint from me or from my guns or estate executor Head manager when those acting in US government law enforcement who were not performing very good law at all had taken firearms away from here last year without anyone in government having a warrant nor accountability nor transparency for them to do so nor why. Now they say I have a felony and I haven’t been convicted of any felony crime yet in any court of law here in the US. Because I never had that trial yet on that felony state charged me soon as I Filed papers to get ready to charge state employees for various criminal acts. Then suddenly my papers get removed from File and mailed back to me. And two new charges suddenly appeared in place.

    Now that is fact. That is what really happened. Can you even imagine that crazy insane undermining things that also betray the public trust with taking their ISP and what websites they might of visited?

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  21. Joe Smith

    was the phone company allowed to collect every phone call we made and sell it to advertisers? unless you are using a proxy server or tor your isp knows and logs every web site you visit. just deleting your cookies won’t protect you. when you post on facebook you are voluntarily giving that data to facebook. when you use google search you are voluntarily giving that data to google. there are other search engines you can use. you don’t have to post on facebook, but it is very difficult to hide from you isp. people need to send mail to whitehouse.gov telling trump to veto this bill or else you will vote for all dems in 2018.

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  22. YouPayNowFatMan

    Simple solution. Just build your own. Spying occurs every day, from the time a bird finds a bite to eat, to the moment you were taking a crap and the NSA blue-screened your windows PC. Either way, the bird is trying to survive. Quite simply the American government is trying to survive. Well, if it wants the data, then it has to pay for it. Warrantless wiretaps, no problem charge 1000 to 2000 dollars a day, per tap, and it will fix the issue.

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  23. Alleged Comment

    Bad for everybody? But why?

    Because once you know your search is not private you will alter it selling the advertisers a bill of tainted goods and the middle man gets away as the only winner.

    Government must be laughing at you jerks. That is how most government seem to look at you as.

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  24. Billie Davis

    Here’s what I want them to see…..” tRump, in my opinion You are an asshole! Think they may want to solicit to me now?

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  25. DB

    I wonder what benefit would Republicans get from this?

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    1. 12centuries

      Bribes donations from the communications lobby.

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  26. Jan Armacost

    You know there is something wrong with a bill when only one party votes in favor of it.

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    1. 12centuries

      True of Obamacare, and definitely true of this traitorous act.

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  27. swansong

    How come nobody wants to comment that it’s the REPUBLICANS that DON’T CARE ABOUT anyones PRIVACY? WAKE UP.Please,before it’s too late.PLease,Pretty Please,with sugar on top.Stop the hatred and WAKE UP.

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    1. Dac

      So, you say stop the hatred… then reply with hatred. I don’t get it. What you mean is bash/hate the republicans. I’m not saying they were wrong,
      Or right for that matter, I have to read more but I don’t get folks that say quit hating with a hating comment in their thread.

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    2. 12centuries

      Well first of all, it’s not hatred. But you’re absolutely right, as a conservative, I am deeply ashamed with every traitorous republican politician that voted for this. I would have expected this kind of behavior from leftists, but not from conservatives. They are all traitors to the people of the U.S.

      I guess we don’t have any conservatives left in congress.

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  28. Wile E Genius

    The Unfortunate thing is that people actually believe they can make the country great again. No one has a clue as to what made it great, for a blip in time, & what it will require to do it again, & sustain it indefinitely.

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  29. suezz

    so glad our representative are really concerned and actually representing the people they work for. (sarcasm)

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  30. DaveTheMan

    Just Shows how little the Idiots in Government actually care about the Public

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  31. buy the judge,key to cover up

    no more Mormons in any branch of govt or law enforcement

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  32. Andrew Taylor

    all the IT nerds in this thread explaining how something can be done … funny. I’m a CompSci major, how it happens is easy & immaterial. their is a big difference between Google & FB using info you voluntarily give them by using their apps, and agreeing to their Ts&Cs, allowing them to target advertising, is way different than allowing your ISP provider to sell all your browsing activity to any and all takers, without providing your consent… IS WAY DIFFERENT

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  33. Aushera

    *uses VPN and then tor and then turns on delete Internet history upon closing browser*

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  34. freebird44

    ALL Republicans, show me the money!

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  35. Ron Griffinlong

    They are pushing us towards using vpn service. Better get vpn or stick with what you currently have than fight with these idiots in the Congress and Senate. More reasons for me to love Astrill now.

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  36. Arline Bichner

    Internet was our shelter where we were secured and anonymous. Now they are trying to kick us out. It is sad.

    5 months ago
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