PIA Removal Of All Inappropriate Content!

edited December 2015 in Privacy News Posts: 84
To all Forums members !

"Private Internet Access is a welcoming place for all people and ages.As a result, posting pornographic content to our forums is restricted, because readers of all ages including minors are able to access our website. "

As a result all previously inappropriate posted images will now be removed and will continue to be removed going forward. 

Continued abuse of this new policy can lead to the removal of your account from our forums.  

Thank you for your understanding.
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  • edited December 2015 Posts: 136
    No, THANK YOU!

    Anyway, there was only one guy posting inappropriate images with sock puppets.

    Post edited by Toriko on
  • Finally.
  • Posts: 517
    Thank you! It's about time. But why this sudden reversal? I'd complained about this very issue before and my concerns were summarily dismissed:

    "I'm afraid that unless we were to go against the very nature of the product we provide we wouldn't be able to prevent such posts."

    Jason, you and your company are floundering. You have no clear direction on how to manage these forums, and you will continue to flounder if you don't think things through more carefully. For example, of what practical effect will "removal of your account from our forums" be when the person responsible for posting his filth on the forums, whom I will refer to collectively as "robert_lazar",  already has at least a dozen accounts?
  • Posts: 517
    WARNING. If you're offended by porn do not click the link below.

    Jason, please explain when this will start being enforced (I have to ask because, as of right now it's not being enforced): "As a result all previously inappropriate posted images will now be removed and will continue to be removed going forward."

    For example, there are multiple porno images in this thread. One porno image in particular that I'd already complained about days ago has still not been removed. Given that it's defamatory and libelous of Jamie Hyneman and Kari Byron I'm disturbed to see it has yet to be taken down. When are you going to commence enforcement of the no-porn policy?
  • Posts: 517
    Thanks Jason for taking care of those.

    Let me suggest to any forum members that if they run across any other porn, please post the links here so that Jason can remove them.

    If any new porn gets posted notify Jason immediately so that he can disable the offender's account. (not that it will do any good -- robert_lazar will just create more accounts, using throw-away email addresses, as he's already acknowledged he does).
  • edited December 2015 Posts: 84
    Hi,

    "We restrict the posting of pornographic content on our site since we do not log the age of viewers to our site to determine if it's legal for them to view such content."

    Please see the below links for more information on the forum rules and policy.


    Thanks,
    PIA!

    Post edited by TinyTRex on
  • edited December 2015 Posts: 136
    removed
    Post edited by Toriko on
  • Posts: 4,013
    Thank you. I am happy for this.Finally the forum can step out of the filth.

    Here is one to kill off. https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/forum/discussion/comment/32754/#Comment_32754

    Please feel free to delete the link when it is no longer useful. If not, I will edit it out when the post is gone.
  • edited January 2016 Posts: 102
    i hope we can get this forum running back to normal again.i used to like coming on this forum to read threads.but then you have people who have nothing better to do but post bulls*** images.
     
    ** Post edited for vulgar language by Goldstein
    Post edited by Goldstein on
  • Posts: 1,103
    PIA no longer stands for a free and open internet.
  • PIA no longer stands for a free and open internet.
     Did PIA VPN block any website or any protocol?
  • Posts: 1,103
    d9163ced said:
    PIA no longer stands for a free and open internet.
     Did PIA VPN block any website or any protocol?
    Well, they block torrenting on their US servers. They remove First Amendment protected content on their forum. What's next?
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    d9163ced said:
    PIA no longer stands for a free and open internet.
     Did PIA VPN block any website or any protocol?
    Well, they block torrenting on their US servers. They remove First Amendment protected content on their forum. What's next?
    PIA does not work exclusively in America. And the First Amendment does not exist as it does in America elsewhere.

    They are just enforcing their rules. I applaud them for it. You are free to leave the service if you are this displeased. Good luck finding so tolerant a VPN though.
  • Posts: 1,103
    OmniNegro said:

    d9163ced said:
    PIA no longer stands for a free and open internet.
     Did PIA VPN block any website or any protocol?
    Well, they block torrenting on their US servers. They remove First Amendment protected content on their forum. What's next?
    PIA does not work exclusively in America. And the First Amendment does not exist as it does in America elsewhere.

    They are just enforcing their rules. I applaud them for it. You are free to leave the service if you are this displeased. Good luck finding so tolerant a VPN though.
    PIA's ToS reads:

    Company makes no representation that this Site is appropriate or available for use in other locations outside the United States.

  • Posts: 4,013

    OmniNegro said:

    d9163ced said:
    PIA no longer stands for a free and open internet.
     Did PIA VPN block any website or any protocol?
    Well, they block torrenting on their US servers. They remove First Amendment protected content on their forum. What's next?
    PIA does not work exclusively in America. And the First Amendment does not exist as it does in America elsewhere.

    They are just enforcing their rules. I applaud them for it. You are free to leave the service if you are this displeased. Good luck finding so tolerant a VPN though.
    PIA's ToS reads:

    Company makes no representation that this Site is appropriate or available for use in other locations outside the United States.

    Wrong. That is for the VPN. This is the forum.
    https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/forum/home/termsofservice

    You agree, through your use of this service, that you will not use this
    community to post any material which is knowingly false and/or defamatory,
    inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually
    oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or otherwise violative
    of any law. You agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the
    copyright is owned by you.

    We at this community also reserve the right to reveal your identity (or
    whatever information we know about you) in the event of a complaint or legal
    action arising from any message posted by you. We log all internet protocol
    addresses accessing this web site.

    Please note that advertisements, chain letters, pyramid schemes, and
    solicitations are inappropriate on this community.

    We reserve the right to remove any content for any reason or no reason at
    all. We reserve the right to terminate any membership for any reason or no
    reason at all.

    You must be at least 13 years of age to use this service.

    Moreover there are additional rules posted here.

    https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/forum/discussion/962/forum-rules#latest

    7. Private Internet Access is a welcoming place for all people. As a result, posting pornographic content to our forums is restricted  because readers of all ages including minors are able to access our website.
  • edited December 2015 Posts: 1,103
    That ToS you quoted is Vanilla Forum's default ToS, not PIA's. Which is why it is not linked to on the forum. It is overridden by PIA's own Tos and Privacy Policy, which make no mention of pornographic content.
    Post edited by catcher749 on
  • That ToS you quoted is Vanilla Forum's default ToS, not PIA's. Which is why it is not linked to on the forum.

    They would have allowed the same ToS are finding it appropriate for them as well. Or, they missed seeing it for all these years.

    This https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/forum/discussion/962/forum-rules#latest

    overrides their ToS since it is probably approved by PIA admins
  • edited December 2015 Posts: 1,103
    d9163ced said:
    That ToS you quoted is Vanilla Forum's default ToS, not PIA's. Which is why it is not linked to on the forum.

    They would have allowed the same ToS are finding it appropriate for them as well. Or, they missed seeing it for all these years.

    This https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/forum/discussion/962/forum-rules#latest

    overrides their ToS since it is probably approved by PIA admins
    That was amended by MatthewK. Is he Andrew Lee the owner of PIA? Nope. He is a vigilante.
    Post edited by catcher749 on
  • edited December 2015 Posts: 25
    d9163ced said:
    That ToS you quoted is Vanilla Forum's default ToS, not PIA's. Which is why it is not linked to on the forum.

    They would have allowed the same ToS are finding it appropriate for them as well. Or, they missed seeing it for all these years.

    This https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/forum/discussion/962/forum-rules#latest

    overrides their ToS since it is probably approved by PIA admins
    That was amended by MatthewK. Is he Andrew Lee the owner of PIA? Nope. He is a vigilante.
    You have no proof Andrew Lee hasn't agreed.

    Another observation : You keep bringing up 'Andrew Lee'. Robert does the same. Again, I apologize if you are not Robert.
    Post edited by d9163ced on
  • Posts: 1,103
    d9163ced said:
    d9163ced said:
    That ToS you quoted is Vanilla Forum's default ToS, not PIA's. Which is why it is not linked to on the forum.

    They would have allowed the same ToS are finding it appropriate for them as well. Or, they missed seeing it for all these years.

    This https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/forum/discussion/962/forum-rules#latest

    overrides their ToS since it is probably approved by PIA admins
    That was amended by MatthewK. Is he Andrew Lee the owner of PIA? Nope. He is a vigilante.
    You have no proof Andrew Lee hasn't agreed.

    Another observation : You keep bringing up 'Andrew Lee'. Robert does the same. Again, I apologize if you are not Robert.
    Andrew Lee is the founder/CEO of PIA and London Trust Media. I guess the fact you used his name in quotes indicates you do not know who he is. He doesn't stand for censorship.
  • edited December 2015 Posts: 25
    d9163ced said:
    d9163ced said:
    That ToS you quoted is Vanilla Forum's default ToS, not PIA's. Which is why it is not linked to on the forum.

    They would have allowed the same ToS are finding it appropriate for them as well. Or, they missed seeing it for all these years.

    This https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/forum/discussion/962/forum-rules#latest

    overrides their ToS since it is probably approved by PIA admins
    That was amended by MatthewK. Is he Andrew Lee the owner of PIA? Nope. He is a vigilante.
    You have no proof Andrew Lee hasn't agreed.

    Another observation : You keep bringing up 'Andrew Lee'. Robert does the same. Again, I apologize if you are not Robert.
    Andrew Lee is the founder/CEO of PIA and London Trust Media. I guess the fact you used his name in quotes indicates you do not know who he is. He doesn't stand for censorship.
    I know who is he as I have read about him

    You are the one who used his name. Robert did that too. He often mentioned London Trust media and Andrew Lee and that PIA forum mods are making rules without the knowledge of Andrew Lee. The mod who wrote the new policy have said his orders came from his superiors.

    Only you two believe that and it is suspicious, probably you two are the same people.
    Post edited by d9163ced on
  • Posts: 517
    Well, they block torrenting on their US servers. 
    They do not block torrenting anywhere. What they don't permit on their US servers, and in a number of other countries, is port forwarding. For the most part that doesn't seem to impact anybody, at least in any significant way, and it certainly doesn't block torrenting. I don't personally agree with their decision to disable port forwarding on their US servers, but I also wouldn't want to falsely accuse them of blocking bittorrent traffic.
  • edited December 2015 Posts: 1,103
    d9163ced said:
    d9163ced said:
    d9163ced said:
    That ToS you quoted is Vanilla Forum's default ToS, not PIA's. Which is why it is not linked to on the forum.

    They would have allowed the same ToS are finding it appropriate for them as well. Or, they missed seeing it for all these years.

    This https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/forum/discussion/962/forum-rules#latest

    overrides their ToS since it is probably approved by PIA admins
    That was amended by MatthewK. Is he Andrew Lee the owner of PIA? Nope. He is a vigilante.
    You have no proof Andrew Lee hasn't agreed.

    Another observation : You keep bringing up 'Andrew Lee'. Robert does the same. Again, I apologize if you are not Robert.
    Andrew Lee is the founder/CEO of PIA and London Trust Media. I guess the fact you used his name in quotes indicates you do not know who he is. He doesn't stand for censorship.
    I know who is he as I have read about him

    You are the one who used his name. Robert did that too. He often mentioned London Trust media and Andrew Lee and that PIA forum mods are making rules without the knowledge of Andrew Lee.

    Only you two believe that and it is suspicious, probably you two are the same people.
    No we are not the same people, that just shows you are ignorant, I have been using these forums with only this account from 2012-present. Any rule changes involving removal of content need to be scrutinized, because Andrew Lee has made it clear in interviews that he believes in a free and open internet.
    Post edited by catcher749 on
  • d9163ced said:
    d9163ced said:
    d9163ced said:
    That ToS you quoted is Vanilla Forum's default ToS, not PIA's. Which is why it is not linked to on the forum.

    They would have allowed the same ToS are finding it appropriate for them as well. Or, they missed seeing it for all these years.

    This https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/forum/discussion/962/forum-rules#latest

    overrides their ToS since it is probably approved by PIA admins
    That was amended by MatthewK. Is he Andrew Lee the owner of PIA? Nope. He is a vigilante.
    You have no proof Andrew Lee hasn't agreed.

    Another observation : You keep bringing up 'Andrew Lee'. Robert does the same. Again, I apologize if you are not Robert.
    Andrew Lee is the founder/CEO of PIA and London Trust Media. I guess the fact you used his name in quotes indicates you do not know who he is. He doesn't stand for censorship.
    I know who is he as I have read about him

    You are the one who used his name. Robert did that too. He often mentioned London Trust media and Andrew Lee and that PIA forum mods are making rules without the knowledge of Andrew Lee.

    Only you two believe that and it is suspicious, probably you two are the same people.
    No we are not the same people, that just shows you are ignorant, I have been using these forums with only this account from 2012-present. Any rule changes involving removal of content need to be scrutinized, because Andrew Lee has made it clear in interviews that he believes in a free and open internet.
    That just shows you are ignorant. People have a right to their suspicions and opinions.

    See the consequtive comments above from catcher and robert
  • Posts: 1,103
    d9163ced said:
    d9163ced said:
    d9163ced said:
    d9163ced said:
    That ToS you quoted is Vanilla Forum's default ToS, not PIA's. Which is why it is not linked to on the forum.

    They would have allowed the same ToS are finding it appropriate for them as well. Or, they missed seeing it for all these years.

    This https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/forum/discussion/962/forum-rules#latest

    overrides their ToS since it is probably approved by PIA admins
    That was amended by MatthewK. Is he Andrew Lee the owner of PIA? Nope. He is a vigilante.
    You have no proof Andrew Lee hasn't agreed.

    Another observation : You keep bringing up 'Andrew Lee'. Robert does the same. Again, I apologize if you are not Robert.
    Andrew Lee is the founder/CEO of PIA and London Trust Media. I guess the fact you used his name in quotes indicates you do not know who he is. He doesn't stand for censorship.
    I know who is he as I have read about him

    You are the one who used his name. Robert did that too. He often mentioned London Trust media and Andrew Lee and that PIA forum mods are making rules without the knowledge of Andrew Lee.

    Only you two believe that and it is suspicious, probably you two are the same people.
    No we are not the same people, that just shows you are ignorant, I have been using these forums with only this account from 2012-present. Any rule changes involving removal of content need to be scrutinized, because Andrew Lee has made it clear in interviews that he believes in a free and open internet.
    That just shows you are ignorant. People have a right to their suspicions and opinions.

    See the consequtive comments above from catcher and robert
    Yes you do, but that does not mean the opinion/suspicion is not ignorant. It is by definition ignorant.
  • Posts: 517
    God said:
    Censorship for any reason is wrong and it won't be tolerated.
    Robert Lazar, if porn is your thing (and clearly it is, including gay porn), then you can find plenty of it elsewhere on the internet. PIA isn't in any way censoring or restricting access to your porn fetishes.

    I don't want it here, and I don't want to have to worry about my kids stumbling across it when they come to this forum looking for help.

    This isn't about "free speech" or censorship. This is about your entitlement attitude to be able to freely offend, repulse, and shock other members here, most of which are only here to find solutions to their technical problems.

    You get your jollies shocking people in the same way that a flasher enjoys going out in public and opening his overcoat to shock little old ladies to nothing on underneath. Flashers too call what they do "free speech," but the little old ladies and children don't appreciate it and will do what they can to stop it.

    Take your porn collection elsewhere. I don't want to see it here again.
  • Posts: 517
    No, you don't get to post whatever you want. That's the point. No more porn, Robert Lazar. Your filth is no longer welcome here. Post it again and it will be promptly flagged.

    It's not going to be a long and vicious fight. You've already lost.

  • God said:
    I will post whatever I want as I believe in freedom of speech.
    I get your point and I believe in freedom. Yet, you somehow feel you are entitled to whatever you want, whenever and wherever. And that is where you are wrong. This forum is not yours. It belongs to PIA and they have the right to create and enforce whatever TOS they desire. You may attack that and debate that fact all you want, but in the end, there it is.

    There are limits on free speech whether you realize it or not. You are only restricted here. There are literally millions of other websites/forums you can post anything you want to. While your personal freedoms/desires might be limited at some sites, the rest of the internet is there for you to enjoy. Have at it.
  • edited January 2016 Posts: 10
    This post has been removed due to violating our Terms of Service. 


    And the direct link to our updated ToS here: https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/forum/home/termsofservice
    Post edited by Goldstein on
  • edited January 2016 Posts: 4
    VikingVpn said:
    The sad thing is,, you little b****** that are complaining about the porn are the ones who sit in front of their computer screen all day and stroke their p****** while watching porn. Sad and pathetic of yourselves.
    So you want freedoms yet attack others for what they do with it? Hmmmmm gotta love that circular logic.
    Post edited by matthewk on
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