Do i need to use Proxy on uTorrent

Is it actually necessary if im using the VPN and encrypting the uTorrrent connections?

Can an ISP still access the data? I cant see how they could?

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  • @JoeShmoe

    Odd, this is the second time I've seen someone ask this question. Anyways, here's the response I gave the first time I saw this question asked:

    https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/forum/discussion/comment/43875/#Comment_43875

    Just out of curiosity, where are you getting the information that claims you need to use a proxy on uTorrent? Because I'm curious as to whether or not there's a website passing false information around.
  • edited April 2017
    Thank you Buzzed

    Yes, i was fairly sure that you didnt but reading the forums here it seems a LOT of people are trying to use both so maybe this information isnr being disseminated to folks - i found that when i did use the proxy and the VPN my torrent speed was about 100x slower and its clear from services like whatsmyip and whoismyisp etc that im hidden
  • @JoeShmoe

    Websites like "whatsmyip" and "whoismyisp" only tell half of the story. While they assure you that your public IP address is masked, they do NOT guarantee that the DNS servers you connect to are explicitly PIA's. For that, you need to visit a DNS leak test website. Probably the best DNS leak website is IP Leak. Not only will it show you what your public IP address is, but it will also show you what DNS servers respond to requests. It also has several other features such as RTCPeer leak detection and torrent address detection. You can visit the website here:

    https://www.ipleak.net/

    Some other goods sites are DNS Leak Test:

    https://www.dnsleaktest.com/

    And PIA's own website, DNS Leak:

    http://dnsleak.com

    I highly suggest you visit these websites and see if any leaks are found.
  • I use the google DNS servers as opposed to my default ISPs - not sure if that makes any difference?
  • JoeShmoe said:
    I use the google DNS servers as opposed to my default ISPs - not sure if that makes any difference?
    Did you do a DNS leak test? Usually, whatever DNS servers you have configured in the Windows Control Panel will be overwritten by PIA's DNS servers. So even if you had your DNS servers configured for DHCP (automatic), it still wouldn't matter because PIA will overwrite those settings and you will (or should) be using PIA's servers.
  • For some reason if I do not use a proxy I get very unstable and limited P2P connection

    That may be a product of the seeders I'm connecting to having some settings that don't like a direct connection with the PIA servers. As a laymen I'm not sure

    Once I put on the proxy my p2p is not only faster but things I was previously unable to leech suddenly have seeders I can connect to.

    I'm unsure why that is. I saw recommendations to do it in a thread here. Tried it, it seemed to work, but again that probably has more to do with the seeders than PIA's service

    I use the .NL proxy
  • Ashoka said:
    For some reason if I do not use a proxy I get very unstable and limited P2P connection

    That may be a product of the seeders I'm connecting to having some settings that don't like a direct connection with the PIA servers. As a laymen I'm not sure

    Once I put on the proxy my p2p is not only faster but things I was previously unable to leech suddenly have seeders I can connect to.

    I'm unsure why that is. I saw recommendations to do it in a thread here. Tried it, it seemed to work, but again that probably has more to do with the seeders than PIA's service

    I use the .NL proxy
    Believe it or not, it has to do with the actual client settings of your p2p software (whether it's BitTorrent or uTorrent). See, apparently UDP limiting is turned on in the options menu by default. That's why you get poor performance over PIA. It's because the VPN connection is set to use the UDP protocol by default. Turn off UDP limiting in the Options. Then you'll get much better performance over the VPN. Also, you won't have to rely on the proxy unless you want to. You can read more about this issue here:

    https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/forum/discussion/23112/anyone-having-torrent-slowdowns-please-read-this

    Hope this helps!

  • That does have an affect on my speed as well

    But I still cap out at about 3 MBps

    With the proxy I've seen it max at 9 but i cap it at 6 so I'm not sure what the normal limit is.

    Maybe it was just all a coincidence...But I tried for a few days without it and was getting piss poor results. Tried with the proxy and seeding was much better
  • Ashoka said:
    That does have an affect on my speed as well

    But I still cap out at about 3 MBps

    With the proxy I've seen it max at 9 but i cap it at 6 so I'm not sure what the normal limit is.

    Maybe it was just all a coincidence...But I tried for a few days without it and was getting piss poor results. Tried with the proxy and seeding was much better
    Believe it or not, your ISP itself might be UDP limiting. UDP limiting has be proven time and time again (in other posts) to be the source of VPN slowdowns. In many cases you can do something about it. For example, UDP limiting options can be found in certain models of WiFi Routers. I had to turn off UDP limiting options in the router Charter Communications sent me. In the worst case scenario, you may have to contact your actual ISP to see if they are limiting your UDP traffic. A good excuse to use in this scenario is that "you have to use a VPN for business purposes, and that they use the UDP protocol." But again, it's very rare that you would actually have to contact your ISP about this. For the most part, there's usually a way for you to fix this problem yourself with the options and tools available to you. You may not need to contact your ISP directly.

    By the way, what speeds are you getting from Speed Test?

    http://www.speedtest.net/

  • 33ms 95mbps down 17 up
  • Ashoka said:
    33ms 95mbps down 17 up
    Assuming that's what you pay for, then we know for sure that your ISP is not limiting UDP packets. With that being said, we can probably isolate the problem to either the extra level of encryption the VPN tunnel has as for the reason of the slight slowdown of download speeds, or a misconfiguration of your torrent client itself. See, with all of the encryption and web traffic protection that a VPN offers, it's not uncommon for download speeds to be just slightly slower than what you paid for. And seeing as how the difference between the proxy option and the VPN was a mere 3 MPBS, I suppose the extra level of protection that the VPN has would cause the slowdown. Though I can't say this as a matter-of-fact, it's just speculation on my part at this point in time.
  • It's about 3/4's of what I pay for

    As to whether or not i could go above 6mbps consistently, I probably could. I specifically limit it because I live with my brother. Speed is sufficient for my needs and I browse fine.

    What you say makes sense, no big deal either way. As long as the status quo can be maintained I'll be good to go for a long time.

  • Ashoka said:
    It's about 3/4's of what I pay for

    As to whether or not i could go above 6mbps consistently, I probably could. I specifically limit it because I live with my brother. Speed is sufficient for my needs and I browse fine.

    What you say makes sense, no big deal either way. As long as the status quo can be maintained I'll be good to go for a long time.

    Glad I was able to help. Happy torrenting! :)
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