Another Website Blocking Access By A VPN

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Date: Sun May 18 17:04:22 2014
IP Address: 50.97.94.19

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 http://www.benzobuddies.org/forum/index.php?topic=74072.0

   this pisses me off why do website administrators do this? and how are websites able to detect an ip as being a proxy or vpn??

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  • because the IP address or range you are connecting from has been flagged as a source of spam or abuse.


    There you go. It's not hard to determine if an IP address is from a VPN/proxy. Check http://whoer.net/ to determine if the IP is blacklisted or from a proxy.
  • Also, if you find out that more than the typical amount of users connect from an IP address, it's likely a proxy/VPN, even if nobody ever abuses a service (that's how Hulu knows...).
  • edited May 2014
    " this pisses me off why do website administrators do this? and how are websites able to detect an ip as being a proxy or vpn??"

    Firstly, please don't act entitled - administrators are free to block any single IP address they want, heck, it could even be an error and typo and boom, it just so happens to be a VPN that is blocked, that is life. Secondly, abuse, even you should know that - VPN IPs are amongst the first to get blacklisted, why? Because people want to mask themselves behind the anonymity using public IP's provide, so naturally, some level of blocking is to be expected here. Personally, I understand why any website would want to block an IP address, especially server or VPN's because people abuse them naturally so you can't argue with that logic. The best thing you can do is to try find another node on the VPN or use your regular IP address (if that's banned, well, that's unfortunate). You seriously can't expect to use a service and IP address thousands of others have used and not expect there to be history behind the activity behind that IP. 
  • Actually, combating abuse without blocking IPs is possible. Content providers are either lazy or uneducated. Anonymous communication with and on websites should be a legal right.
  • Yeah some websites just block ip addresses which may be a public ip address or someone new gets switched to it and you can't get access.

    It's a very dumb system to ban via ip.
  • I wasn't even trying to post anything on that forum. I was just trying to read a forum thread. The IP was blocked. Looks like this forum is blocking vpn traffic. The canadian IPs are also blocked.
     I actually agree with vpn on this one. Anonymity is a right. So what does a website gain by blocking legitimate vpn users?
      vpn maybe the benzobuddies website should hire you to combat abuse since they dont have a clue about anything. However, I think many websites and services use claims of "abuse" to justify blocking things that they just dont like, like vpns. Similar to phony dmca notices. Websites i think use phony claims of abuse to justify blocking.
  • I, for one, am really tired of this blocking my VPN.  It seems Netflix is the only website that has taken a pro-vpn stance on this--kudos to them.  

    We have a right to use a VPN to mask our activities from the ISP, because it's not their right to know (and thus control) what we do on the internet.  We do not pay them to be our tollbooths.  

    People argue that vpns are only used for nefarious activity are wrong.  I use it 100% because I don't want to be blocked by ISP for using a technology they have deemed disreputable.  One turning point for me, is I couldnt' download a linux distro via bittorrent because comcast was blocking it.  Also, years later, I could not use usenet because AT&T was interfering with it, blocking traffic to it.  VPN was my solution, and although it incurs a bandwidth penalty, it's a small price to pay for my freedom and privacy.

    People who think its unnecessary because they don't view porn or download warez miss the point that everything they do is logged and used to build a powerful advertising profile against them, locking them into an adversarial hyperconsumerism racket that actively destroys their esteem, personal wealth, and their ecological heritage for their children as such a system only serves to perpetuate unchecked, unsustainable growth of a private, authoritarian cabal that controls the global Economy (AT&T, ComcastTWC, CIA/NSA, VISA, FedResrve)

    Any company blocking a VPN is to my mind, blocking freedom, blocking privacy, and encouraging an authoritarian collusion to destroy the Internet in general, and therefore the world at large.  That makes them my enemy and my only recourse is to blacklist those companies right back, never use them.  Hulu for example is no longer part of my vocabulary.
  • edited September 2014
    I don't think it will be long before Netflix begins blocking VPN users:
    https://torrentfreak.com/copyright-holders-want-netflix-ban-vpn-users-140917/
  • They refer to it as "Piracy" for a paying customer to use a VPN? WTF are they smoking?
  • Apparently a VPN user's money is not good enough. >.<
  • Apparently a VPN user's money is not good enough. >.<
    Sounds like they do not want our business. Fair enough. I can do just fine without giving them money I have too little of anyway.
  • edited September 2014
    I'm taking bets on what percentage of people will begin/have already begun to "illegally" download movies & tv shows that they can no longer watch on these services.

    The worldwide "entertainment" industry should buy a clue with some of their ever dwindling income.
  • I'm taking bets on what percentage of people will begin/have already begun to "illegally" download movies & tv shows that they can no longer watch on these services.

    The worldwide "entertainment" industry should buy a clue with some of their ever dwindling income.
    That would imply they are actually capable of learning. Look at games. The Witcher 2 was sold without any DRM and sold over 1.7 million copies. Anyone could take a copy and just give it away to the entire Internet, yet people bought it.

    The point is that even in a world of piracy, most people want to buy their content. There are always going to be those that will never buy it even if it is never possible to steal a copy, but most of the time, they will get it anyway. Fighting piracy is like pissing up a rope, every bit as productive and the masses will love you just as much for trying. :D
  • I just installed Cisco Anyconnect VPN on my laptop because I could not access a server where I work without it.  As soon as I did that, I could no longer access Netflix (really), Pandora, Doodle and a host of other places.  My other laptop that does not have this VPN on it still can get to those other places.  I quit AnyConnect but I'm afraid I need to uninstall it in order to use Pandora, Doodle, Netflix and many other things.  I am not as sophisticated as most of you I bet but I could think of no explanation other than the installation of the VPN and I found this forum and others suggesting my diagnosis was correct.  However, Netflix does not work for me either. 

    I hope someone has advice for me.  Thanks!
  • Sometimes I reconnected PIA to different location and connected just fine.
    Once I disconnected then just reconnected and was not blocked from a site then.
    Some I could not connect at all with PIA running but most that blocked me I didn't feel great need to view anyway.

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