Does PIA see my IP?
Hi
I'm just wondering if PIA can "see" my IP? I know they don't keep logs of activity or traffic but I'm just wondering if I'm logged off and I log on will they "see" my IP (like when I visit any other site), even if it's just for a brief moment and the info gets overwritten?
I'm just wondering if PIA can "see" my IP? I know they don't keep logs of activity or traffic but I'm just wondering if I'm logged off and I log on will they "see" my IP (like when I visit any other site), even if it's just for a brief moment and the info gets overwritten?
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No part of EU laws requires a VPN to have logging capacity. Nor does American law. This would be different if you were speaking of ISPs instead of VPNs.
but, at every connection any VPN provider necessarily must know your IP address. however, that information is probably only stored in RAM and is lost upon disconnection.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elite_theory
I report spam and when it is from a EU VPN server if I get a reply it is they do not log and have no way of contacting VPN source (their laws prevent them from doing so)!
For the EU; The data retention must serve, under clear and precise conditions, a legitimate interest for prosecuting serious crime or protection of public safety and security. When such logging is required it must be specific in its scope for those purposes. The EU regulations only apply to those services based in the EU. However, the EU 'regulation' applied to "ISPs and communications providers" where data must be retained for a period of 12 months - PIA is not an ISP nor is it a "communications provider". The original EU Data Retention Directive never applied to VPN services, some areas of the EU added to the EU directive by interpreting it as including VPN services also and included it in law.
In 2014 the European Court of Justice declared the EU Data Retention Directive invalid. Despite it being declared invalid some EU countries incorporated it into their law (which is why it still seems active and applicable). Although some areas of the EU have added to the EU regulation by interpreting this as including VPN services also and included it in law, those areas can only include those VPN services incorporated within that EU country jurisdiction, PIA is not incorporated in any EU country.
Although PIA has gateway servers in other countries, PIA its self is based in the US and the EU (or a EU country) has no authority to compel them to log. In the US there is no law or regulation which can compel a VPN service to log for any reason. Although, as a selling point to appeal to the paranoid and uneducated (on the subject), some VPN services claim they are incorporated in other countries to avoid logging requirements by the US government for VPN services, the fact is the US does not have any logging requirements or law requiring logging for VPN services and is the only country on earth that has zero regulation or legal framework or authority or constitutional basis under any guise to compel a VPN service provider to log. All the US can do is subpoena or request logs for specific purpose of national security or prosecution of crime, they can not require a VPN service provider to log. If a US VPN service provider does not log they can't supply anything for the subpoena or request and the standard boiler plate response to such subpoena or request from PIA has always come down to, simply, "we don't log so are unable to supply anything for your request".
The simple answer that should have been put forth in response to your question is; No